There is limited chance that I will find my bio-parents until the state I am from opens up the records (fingers crossed it will be soon!), but I am thinking of doing this DNA test for ancestry just for fun (I doubt it is all that reliable, but still would be interesting). If money wasn't an object, would you give it a try? And would you do your paternal or maternal line?

http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/index.php

Scenario: Woman tells guy she had a one-night stand with that she is pregnant with his child, and he (stupidly) agrees to pay her child support without any sort of paternity test. Not only is he not the father, but she knows (from the start) that he is not the father.

She has INARGUABLY committed the crime of theft by fraud, right? Yeah, he may be an idiot. Yeah, he should watch where he puts his private parts - but fundamentally, she is receiving money from him by telling him a lie, right? Is that not the definition of fraud? The fact that she may be using the money for a child that he had nothing to do with does not change her culpability for this lie, does it?

Now, clearly the life of the child is paramount, and sending the primary custodian to jail would be a problem, but if she had committed an unrelated murder, we'd send her to jail and the kid would be "out on the streets", right? Primary custodians are not above the law just because society cares about its children, right?

Unfortunately, if you look at current case law, you might think differently. We just recently had a case where the guy went to jail because he was unable to make his payments, and he turned out not to be the father. Yes, the court said he didn't have to continue making his payments now that they knew he was not the father, but nothing (so far) has been done about the time he spent in jail or the money he has already paid.

Personally, I think this is a great argument for mandatory paternity tests before any child support decrees are made.

Legally and morally, how is telling a lie under these circumstances any different than borrowing your neighbor's kid, misrepresenting him as yours and the guy's and demanding child support?
I guess I'm not really asking what either the man or the woman SHOULD do. Clearly she shouldn't have lied. Clearly he should have demanded proof.

I'm really asking what our courts should do, and how society should treat this.
The scenario specifically states "she knows" - that isn't part of the question. If you want me to make it more specific, how about "he was drunk and she knew that she didn't have sex with him but she told him she did."

She knows. Take it as fact.
Kylie, why is not the same as using the neighborhood kid? Because she is doing it for the kid? There are plenty of reasons why people commit crimes. If we're going to balance punishment against need, are we going to give nastier penalties to white collar criminals than thugs holding up donut shops to survive?

my friend said it cost money because they had one done but they had theyres done years ago do you still have to pay or can you get it done for free now? oh and i live in canada

okay so my ex i got pregnant and was wondering about a paternity test..how do i go about it.. i dont want to pay money and he is saying this is not his baby

which are the best DNA ancestry tests to take? i want to know my ancestry for sure, but i don't want to spend a ton of money. i've heard of ones where you take a cheek swab and send it to a DNA lab for analysis. what is a reliable and inexpensive test to take?

works. Thoughts ? What do you think of this anti rip off anti skank anti fraud bill ?
sweet thats one more man paying child support loosing his money paying lawyers loosing his house... yeah makes you really want to get married.

Wondering what the laws are in WI regarding getting back child support once the new DNA test proved who his father is.
No, I'm not trying to recoup or 'get even' with his dad. I don't need his money. My son called me asking about it,, that's why I posted this. and yes, it most likely was blood tests back then not DNA. But i knew all along who his father was!

ok, my boyfriend's brother who i love, just got summons for child support and a paternity test.
it is between him and some other guy, now here are the problems: she doesn't have a job and wants him to pay for hospital bills (the baby was born a yr ago) food, her clothes, her car insurance and payments, all the babies things and all her bills, adding up to 750$ a month!
I find all that ridiculous! My father paid child support for me at 250$ a month and he was a detective, it's not like he couldn't afford it my mother just didn't rob him blind.

So I guess my questions are can she even give right on why he should pay all of this if he is the father when she doesn't have a job
and he is now living in Miami as a contractor Miami is seven hrs away, he wants to postpone having to come up there to take the test to await the results of the other guys test in hope he won't have to drive seven hours. Is there anyway he can request this?
I would love some helpful logical answers, Thanks.
And if he is the father he has already said he will pay what is necessary to make his son happy and healthy, he's not cheap he just wants to be fair. He's a good guy and is responsible.
alright well thank you everyone that was helpful he is going to check out the calculator and he feels much better knowing that all her demands can't be met, he is more than happy to pay for the child if it is his. And for all of you who are just giving me useless answers like it's none of your business 1. he is right here and just doesn't have an account so i posted this for him, thats enough of your petty annoyances and for all of you who think she is being fair 2. i know what its like to grow up without a father and not a lot of money it's hard but my mother cared enough about me to get of her ass and get a job to help cover the rest of the bills (i.e. this woman hasn't worked in over a year so just chill)
oh! and i'll give best answer to whoever was fair and helped the most THANKS!

A man had a girlfriend. They weren't monagamous. They broke up, and didn't speak for 5 years. She had a child after their breakup, and the math makes it look like he is the father. But she didn't inform him that she was even pregnant. He did not know until 5 years after their breakup that she was pregnant and had a child.

So, she waited until the child was 5 years old, and then decided to get the authorities to pay child support. He claims that the child is not his, and requested a dna test. The court denied his request.

It is now 4 years later. The child is 9.

The man in question is a roofer, and is able to find work only periodically. He has had much trouble keeping up with child support, and has been before the court and punished a couple of times for it. Both times, he again requested a dna test, claiming that the child is not his. His request has been consistently denied.

He was recently arrested again for failure to pay. His court appointed attorney says that his chances of getting a dna test are almost nil. The attorney says that in Texas, at 0-3 years, they will usually grant the request for a dna test. At 3-5 years, chances are 50/50 that they will grant a request for a dna test. But at 5 years plus, the attorney says his chances of getting a dna test are close to zero.

Is there anything he can do here to get a dna test, that doesn't require money? This is a desperate situation. He has now got a wife and stepson. His wife was recently shown to have a serious medical condition, and needs him at home.
Oops. I meant to say, "she decided to get the authorities to make him pay child support".

I see on Yahoo about child support and how if your over 2500 in back child support you can not get a passport for whatever reason, I am re-married and my husband I am married to pays child support to a child who his wife ex has denied a paternity test to my husband and is now remarried her self. I am so sick of the laws of men having even women having to pay child support ( especially men) who have been denied a paternity test and even when told the cost will be out of our pocket, people can be upset about what I have to say but I will tell you something. Women especially play games with men when it comes to things like this I have seen it, heard it and am appuled by it, I think laws should change and I think MEN especially better start thinking about the future and when your child turns 18 you go and get a paternity test and IF the child is NOT yours you sue the mother for fraud, and for whatever else you can get her for , for all back payments. eventually this will happen.my opinion
I like your answer Tony L, see I believe the courts should stop and see each case and look and see the real deal they are blinded by what ( Mostly women do to men) and the games and everything else. Sure they can withhold a passport no problem but with holding a child from seeing the other parent doesn't seem to be a problem for them as well, where the other parent suffers.
I think Laws need to change because it hurts allot of people not just the child but the Non-custodal parent in many ways, people seem to forget that when a parent goes for child supprt by the time it hits a court they are behind and then they can never catch up especially when they ad intrest every month on top of that, I was wondering for all the americans in the USA who are in DEBT with child support who are denied paternity test or that bastard law thing ( no matter if he is or isn't your kid) is it because the welfare dept is sick of dishing out money to mothers who don't know who the kids dad really is? I bet